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I like when Mann (and related parties speak), every-time they do they seem to shrink and grow weaker, as they feign science, if only we could get patchy, Hansen or Gore to introduce him (shrink/shrink/weak, etc...) then we ask them ...
1.) Dr. Mann - why did you consider a 1 tree sample, which its creator, your fellow Dr. Briffa, advised you against using, as a valid statistical sample, even though there were much better nearby samples which would have been valid statistically but did not agree with your construct known as Mann's Hockey Stick?
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2.) Dr. Mann, why did you ignore the advice and counsel of your fellow climategaters about your Hockey Stick Graph?
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3.) Dr. Mann, why did you knowingly and fraudulently invert Mia Tiljander's Sediment Series, to create Mann's Hockey Stick, and then not correct this when your fraud was exposed and was pointed out to you (inversion means cold looks like warm)?
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4.) Dr. Mann, why did you not include the later or more recent tree-ring data which disagreed with your 1 tree Yamal sample, and which had the effect of 'hiding the decline?
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Finally, Dr. Mann, knowing all this (as the climategate emails establish it was all know), why did the IPCC feature Mann's Hockey Stick as being representative of past-climate in replacement of the HH Lamb Graph, which the paleo-data better supports and was not made in a political environment?
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What do you say to those who accuse you of keeping your research process secretive? Would you regard this process as your intellectual property?
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All of our research is out in the public domain, all of our data. Unfortunately, those looking to smear us have made false accusations of us not making the data available, which was just a lie¡Ä
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There are legitimate issues over whether a computer program you have written to implement an algorithm; if you¡Çre talking about a Microsoft or Apple computer, they would defend to the end their right to keep that. You can¡Çt get access to Microsoft¡Çs computer code because they consider it their intellectual property. Scientists for a long time have argued that a code that you write to implement algorithms is your intellectual property, and the National Science Foundation has stood firmly behind that.
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When our critics asked us to turn over our computer code, we understood what they were doing: if it was the computer code, they didn¡Çt care, because then it would be something else. It would be our personal emails, and in fact they ended up stealing our personal emails. They weren¡Çt interested in seeing our computer code or trying to independently implement it. They were looking for something to try to discredit us, to be able to say ¡Æoh look how sloppy their computer code is, they¡Çre not good computer programmers, you shouldn¡Çt trust anything they do.¡Ç
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We were aware of that and so we didn¡Çt want to go down that slippery slope of saying yes, we¡Çll turn that over and then pretty soon you¡Çre turning over personal emails, you¡Çre turning over your private diaries. We didn¡Çt want to set a precedent that would allow those looking to smear scientists, to go down this endless road of subjecting scientists to vexatious demands that would basically tie us up ¡½ we wouldn¡Çt have any time to even do research any more. Unfortunately that¡Çs what we¡Çve seen ever since. We¡Çve seen politicians try to subject us to subpoena all of our private emails. Its part of this cynical effort to discredit scientists, confuse the public, to intimidate scientists.
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